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ombrerosse
05-07-2008, 17:12
cazzo hof atto una seduta dove entravano set di continuo ma non erano mai pagati, che bisogna fare puntare ceccare :dry:

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold\'em - 9 players
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BB: $51.65
Hero (UTG): $60.00
UTG+1: $20.00
UTG+2: $24.15
MP1: $113.65
MP2: $114.80
CO: $86.50
BTN: $176.90
SB: $99.00

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with Q:heart: Q:diamond:
Hero raises to $3.50, 4 folds, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 8:club: 5:spade: 5:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7

Turn: ($22.50) Q:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $13, CO folds

Final Pot: $22.50
Hero wins $21.40
(Rake: $1.10)

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UTG: $121.25
UTG+1: $38.20
UTG+2: $106.50
Hero (MP1): $83.80
MP2: $157.00
CO: $46.40
BTN: $81.35
SB: $48.35
BB: $74.95

Pre Flop: Hero is MP1 with 9:heart: 9:spade:
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($10.50) 9:club: 3:diamond: 3:spade: (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($10.50) 4:diamond: (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $6, BTN folds, UTG+2 folds

Final Pot: $10.50
Hero wins $10.00
(Rake: $0.50)

Raistlin
05-07-2008, 17:15
A parte il fatto che in entrambi i casi non eri x100, il che già a prescindere ti frega se giochi per il set value (non certo il primo caso, il secondo però forse si)).

IMO, se gli oppo non hanno un cacchio, c\'è poco da massimizzare. Al limite (ma parlo sempre a mano finita, quindi lascio il tempo che trovo) nella prima mano se l\'oppo ha un AF alto potevi provare un c/r al turn. Solo questo mi sa

ombrerosse
05-07-2008, 17:42
be anche 60bb sono buoni per set value basta avere lo stack 20 volte il raise mi sembra

Raistlin
05-07-2008, 18:31
Mhmm, si ma fino ad un certo punto. Nella prima mano, lo stack effettivo è 60bb
Al flop ci sono 8.5bb (3.5+3.5+i bui) e lo stack effettivo è 56.5bb (il tuo)
Il rapporto stack/piatto è 56.5/8.5=6.5 circa (cerca un mio vecchio posto su NLHE professional). che è perfetto per la tua overpair al flop (ti committi + facilmente ed a te va bene).

Ma per set value preferisco avere 100bb, così a parità di azione ho
96.5/8.5=11.5 come rapporto stack/piatto e, se sono in posizione, posso fare floating e rappresentare il set al turn, avendo + margine di manovra.
Se vuoi più tardi mi spiego meglio, così mi rendo conto che non significa un cazzo :p :p

Gesu`
05-07-2008, 19:23
ombrerosse ha scritto:

cazzo hof atto una seduta dove entravano set di continuo ma non erano mai pagati, che bisogna fare puntare ceccare
Altro che set, son due full. E ti lamenti pure! :P
A mio avviso fare parola non serve a nulla con delle carte in tavola simili, è troppo improbabile che l\'avversario leghi qualcosa e ti regali soldi. Sempre meglio puntare ed eventualmente far crescere il piatto :-)

Miglio
05-07-2008, 20:17
esatto, ascolta Gesù;) B)



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saw flop | saw showdown

Button irto ($41.37)
SB smartace2002 ($5.34)
BB MADZ06 ($12.61)
UTG barnus ($19.90)

Preflop: irto is on the Button with Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
barnus raises to 0.80, irto raises to 2.00, 2 folds, barnus calls 1.20.

Flop (4.30) 3http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
barnus checks, irto bets 2.15, barnus moves all-in for 17.90, irto calls 15.75.

Turn (40.10) 4http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif

River (40.10) Thttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif

irto shows Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
barnus shows 8http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif

barnus wins 40.10 with Flush (Spades) with Ace high



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saw flop | saw showdown

Button postmanclark ($19.53)
SB viking2000 ($38.64)
BB irto ($20.58)
UTG Weaktightnit ($19.72)
UTG+1 tripeur ($39.86)

Preflop: irto is in the BB with 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif
3 folds, viking2000 raises to 0.80, irto raises to 2.60, viking2000 calls 1.80.

Flop (5.50) Qhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
viking2000 checks, irto bets 3.60, viking2000 calls 3.60.

Turn (12.70) Qhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif
viking2000 checks, irto bets 12.40, viking2000 raises to 24.80, irto moves all-in for 1.98.

River (51.88) 8http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif

irto shows 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif
viking2000 shows Qhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif Qhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif

viking2000 wins 51.88 with Four of a kind, Queens



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saw flop | saw showdown

Button Reyblack05 ($17.90)
SB Njdsousanoiq ($15.11)
BB irto ($23.44)
UTG Oakieness ($12.26)
UTG+1 onetwoteddy ($19.50)
CO OMV79 ($19.71)

Preflop: irto is in the BB with 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
3 folds, Reyblack05 raises to 0.60, 1 fold, irto calls 0.40.

Flop (1.30) 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif Jhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif
irto checks, Reyblack05 checks.

Turn (1.30) 3http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
irto bets 0.60, Reyblack05 calls 0.60.

River (2.50) Jhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif
irto bets 2.50, Reyblack05 raises to 7.40, irto moves all-in for 22.24, Reyblack05 moves all-in for 9.30

Reyblack05 shows Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
irto shows 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif

Reyblack05 wins 43.94 with A full house, Aces and Jacks

Miglio
05-07-2008, 22:42
fresca fresca...


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saw flop | saw showdown

Button Tbma85 ($14.27)
SB irto ($39.89)
BB plover99 ($18.68)
UTG SoFrenCh ($20.90)
UTG+1 gedeon69 ($20.00)
CO walshy01 ($12.99)

Preflop: irto is in the SB with Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
2 folds, Tbma85 raises to 0.80, irto raises to 2.00, plover99 calls 1.80, 1 fold.

Flop (4.90) Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif 3http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif 4http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
irto bets 2.40, plover99 calls 2.40.

Turn (9.70) 5http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif
irto bets 6.00, plover99 calls 6.00.

River (21.70) 7http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif
irto bets 10.80, plover99 moves all-in for 8.28

irto shows Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif Khttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
plover99 shows 6http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif Qhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif

plover99 wins 40.78 with A straight, Seven high




vi dico solo che in 2 giorni ho fatto 5k mani al 20... e son sotto di circa 15 buy in:blink: :laugh:

non riesco a grindare infinito... vado broke prima:laugh:

ombrerosse
06-07-2008, 00:34
stavolta poche mezze misure :laugh:


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Hero (UTG): $56.05
UTG+1: $112.85
UTG+2: $23.30
MP1: $117.55
MP2: $24.50
CO: $219.65
BTN: $17.00
SB: $305.25
BB: $57.35

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with 5:club: 5:spade:
Hero calls $1, 2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, CO raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4

Flop: ($21.50) Q:club: J:spade: 4:spade: (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($21.50) 5:diamond: (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, MP2 folds, CO raises to $10, BB calls $10, Hero raises to $51.05 all in, CO folds, BB calls $41.05

River: ($133.60) Q:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $133.60
Hero shows 5c 5s (a full house, Fives full of Queens)
BB shows Ks As (a flush, Ace high)
Hero wins $130.60
(Rake: $3.00)