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jason84
26-11-2007, 02:11
Non converto la mano x lasciar i commenti ke ho fatto al river.
Secondo voi essendo quasi sicuro del contro poker dell\'altro dovevo foldar o potevo pensar a un aa?
Al flop ho checcato x far il + classico dei check raise ke nn è venuto...

PokerStars Game #13462076296: Tournament #68295854, $100+$9 Hold\'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/25 - 14:05:00 (ET)
Table \'68295854 1\' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: catchdeez (1560 in chips)
Seat 2: zelmanov (90 in chips)
Seat 3: denbro7 (1370 in chips)
Seat 4: hobby5 (2880 in chips)
Seat 5: IG0tDibs (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: meeks16 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: jason1984a (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: soly000 (690 in chips)
Seat 9: nyibossy22 (2500 in chips)
hobby5: posts small blind 10
IG0tDibs: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jason1984a [Qd Qh]
meeks16: folds
jason1984a: raises 40 to 60
soly000: calls 60
nyibossy22: folds
catchdeez: raises 40 to 100
zelmanov: folds
denbro7: folds
hobby5: folds
IG0tDibs: folds
jason1984a: calls 40
soly000: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Qs Ks Kc]
jason1984a: checks
soly000: checks
catchdeez: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs Ks Kc] [Kh]
jason1984a: checks
soly000: checks
catchdeez: bets 100
jason1984a: calls 100
soly000: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qs Ks Kc Kh] [Qc]
jason1984a: bets 160
catchdeez: raises 340 to 500
jason1984a said, \"fvck\"
jason1984a said, \"i had 4 queens\"
jason1984a said, \"but i\'m pretty sure that u had k\"
jason1984a said, \"but i can\'t fold\"
jason1984a: calls 340
*** SHOW DOWN ***
catchdeez: shows [Kd Ac] (four of a kind, Kings)
jason1984a: shows [Qd Qh] (four of a kind, Queens)
catchdeez collected 1530 from pot
hobby5 said, \"lol\"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1530 | Rake 0
Board [Qs Ks Kc Kh Qc]
Seat 1: catchdeez showed [Kd Ac] and won (1530) with four of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: zelmanov folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 3: denbro7 (button) folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 4: hobby5 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: IG0tDibs (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: meeks16 folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)
Seat 7: jason1984a showed [Qd Qh] and lost with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: soly000 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: nyibossy22 folded before Flop (didn\'t bet)

zio_slim
26-11-2007, 03:20
beh sfiga, alla fine ha raisato poco quindi potevi chiamare...

Io cmq avrei checkato il river, alla fine con la Q che cade al river è difficile estrarre valore da TT/JJ....
Mentre invece un check-call ti permetteva di prendere qualcosina da AA e magari da un eventuale bluff, perdendo meno in caso di poker suo.

jason84
26-11-2007, 05:03
Questa mia bet aveva 3 scopi:
1)Se aveva poker rilanciava quindi avrei dovuto foldare
2)Se aveva qualkosa tipo JJ o meno poteva pagarmelo credendo ke ankio giocassi il board
3)Se aveva aa fungeva da blocking bet xkè se io checkavo lui si sarebbe sentito fortissimo con aa e avrebbe potuto far un all in e li nn avrei saputo proprio ke far

zio_slim
26-11-2007, 05:32
beh allora per il punto 1 e il punto 3 del tuo ragionamento avresti dovuto foldare al raise :-)

jason84
27-11-2007, 05:59
Si ma come ho detto prima proprio nn ce lh\'o fatta...un poker è sempre un poker(ragionamento da vero perdente)